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Oh, look at me, I'm all sorts of artsy

Discussion in 'Banter' started by the_amber_trap, 22 Mar 2012.

  1. the_amber_trap

    the_amber_trap Calm down so I can be the angry one. Staff Member

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    I've been playing with a photographic technique called anthrotype.
    Here are my results. (These are pretty large files as I needed to scan them for a magazine submission.)

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    They were fun to make and I plan to do more. (These aren't all of the ones I did, but I don't want to give away everything all at once.)
     
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  2. Vork Moin

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    Where's Google, I need to find out what this anthrotype is.
     
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  3. Sushimitzu

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    I like the first one (even if this one dark spot annoys me). The other ones are pretty meh. The fourth one would have been nice with an actual brush shape like in the first one.
     
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    Well, this is funny. I misread the thread title "look at me, I'm all sorts of nasty" and "photographic technique" as "pornographic technique. I guess that's why you don't read things when you're still half asleep in the morning. I like the first one best, but they're all nice. Good luck with the magazine.
     
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  5. the_amber_trap

    the_amber_trap Calm down so I can be the angry one. Staff Member

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    An anthrotype is a print made using natural dyes, usually some sort of berry juice because that's the easiest to extract, making it more evenly toned with alcohol, then applying it to paper. A transparency is placed over the paper and a print is made by exposing it to the sun for anywhere from a few days to several weeks. I know of one guy that took three months to get a decent print. It works using the same principle as any poster that fades in UV light. It's an incredibly old technique, though it's sadly not very archival, though the use of UV-absorbing glass may help that.

    Honestly, I don't think the scans really do justice to some of the prints, especially the third one. That's a spider and its web on the side of my house, but the lines for the web are completely lost. The first one is definitely best. The texture from the cold press watercolor paper is very distracting as well. I need to get some hot press for my next attempt.
    I did several different types of prints to see what sort of negatives work best and what application techniques would look like. I have a few more that I'll post, a couple of which are simply a mess because I wanted to see what a splattered application would look like as a print. I think I also had an issue with some of the paper pulling away from the transparency, thus softening the image so that it's much more indistinct. Oh well, it's off to class for me today.
     
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  6. Vork Moin

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    ^This is helpful.
     
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  7. SupWithThat

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    Isn't this the same technique they said could have been used to fake the Turin shroud?

    I particularly like the fourth one, Amber - especially the concept in general, with the well defined edges making it almost look like a post card image. Would be pretty sweet, to me, if you were to do one of a similar effect but with a copper(rust?) tint over a beach scene, with some kiddish looking writing saying 'Wish you were here'.

    Hell, I'd buy that.
     
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  8. the_amber_trap

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    Oddly enough, the prints are roughly post card sized. I'm not sure what botanical extract I could use for a rusty color. I'll have to look into that.
     
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  9. Vork Moin

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    Wow I FINALLY see the images, I thought they were just tie-die at first.
     
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    It's not a very precise technique, so I can understand why you couldn't see them.

    Here are the other four, though I'm not very fond of how blotchy a couple of these are. I like the one of my cat. The gate isn't bad either.
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    Sup, I didn't even notice your question about the Turin Shroud until now.

    I don't know enough about the particulars of it to say if that's how it happened one way or the other, but I do know that it should have faded drastically by now if that's how it was done, so I'd be inclined to guess that they used another method.
     
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  12. SupWithThat

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    Yeah I think it was some form of photo negativity that was used to create it - I vaguely remember watching a show which broke it down.

    Annoys me even more that they use carbon dating facts to try prove that it's really 2000 years old.
     
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    I might have seen the same sort of show ages ago, and I'm pretty sure the method they suppose caused it had something to do with long proteins in bodily fluids being absorbed by the cloth and then breaking down, leaving behind residues that stained the fabric. I don't remember it well enough to say anything with any sort of authority or confidence.

    I thought it was more amusing that the Catholic church allowed the shroud to be carbon dated, that the results came back showing it was quite a bit younger than it should be, and that people accused the church of purposefully giving a fake shroud for some unknown reason in order to have the thing disproved.
     
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    In looking at those scans, I can't believe how absolutely awful they are. The pink is too saturated, the cold-press texture is too extreme, and the overall brightness levels seem off.

    Anyway, here are some more things I'm working on:
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    They're both done with a technique called gum bichromate printing. The bridge shot is built up of several layers, but the black is unfortunately a little off as far as registration. I guess that could be part of the charm.
    The other is just the one layer, but at least it looks nice and crisp. I think it'll be easier to keep things lined up properly on it, though using paper negatives makes that a bit more difficult.
     
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  15. SupWithThat

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    I really like this style Amber, good work man.

    It lends itself well to harsh lines with clear layers, I'd love to see a skyline done.
     
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    I'll have to look into my archive and see what sort of skyline photos I can find. Of course, then I'll also have to color separate the image and then prep the paper and negatives. Then I have to mix my emulsion, apply it, then expose and wash it. I'll repeat that for a total of four layers, maybe more. Each layer takes about half a day.
    At minimum, that will take me about a week, and only if nothing else pops up.
     
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  17. SupWithThat

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    I demand it be done!

    Haha, man - Generally if anything takes half a day, if takes me half a second to say 'f that'.
     
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    Well, most of it is waiting for the emulsion to dry.
     
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  19. Sushimitzu

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    Looks like painted. Awesome.
     
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    I guess that has to do with the fact that emulsion is literally painted on the paper. Thanks.
     
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